--- title: "Call or Fold: 5 Outs vs 2/3 pot, Turn" url: "https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold/5-outs-turn-vs-two-thirds-pot.md" canonical_url: "https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold/5-outs-turn-vs-two-thirds-pot" last_updated: "2026-10-23" type: "reference" summary: "5 outs on the turn hit 10.87% by the river. A two-thirds-pot bet needs 28.57%, so the verdict is fold." related: ["https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold.md"] --- # Call or Fold: 5 Outs vs 2/3 pot, Turn 5 outs on the turn hit 10.87% by the river. A two-thirds-pot bet needs 28.57%, so the verdict is fold. Fold. With 5 outs on the turn, your 10.87% chance falls short of the 28.57% price of a two-thirds-pot bet. - Verdict: Fold (5 outs, turn, two-thirds-pot bet) - Chance to hit by the river: 10.87% (one card to come) - Equity the call needs: 28.57% ($66.67 into a pot of $233.33) - Margin over the price: -17.70 points (your chance minus the price) ## How the verdict is reached The call is clearly not worth making. 10.87% is your chance to hit, 28.57% is the price, and the gap between them is 17.70 points. Counts like 5 outs often come from a mix of draws. Of 46 unseen cards, 5 help, or 10.87% on one card. ## Putting dollars on the call - Pot before the bet: $100 - Bet: $66.67 - You call: $66.67 - Pot with your call in: $233.33 - Gain on a hit: $166.67 - Net loss when you miss: $66.67 - Your chance to hit: 10.87% - Expected value of a call: -$41.30 - Break-even equity: 28.57% - Your chance minus the price, unrounded: -17.7019 points - Fractional outs at the price: 13.14 outs - Your outs minus break-even outs: -8.14 outs Suppose a hit wins the entire pot, a miss loses your call, and no more betting follows. The average gain is $18.12, the average loss is $59.42, and calling loses $41.30 on average, or -0.620 per dollar called. Read as odds: 8.2 : 1 against you, 2.5 : 1 from the pot. The price is 28.57% because your call goes into the pot too. Leave it out and you get 40.00%, a margin of -29.1304 points that does not exist; use the starting pot instead and 66.67% puts the margin at -55.7971 points. ## What it would take to call Your chance is 10.87%, so a hit has to pay $613.33 in all, or $380 more than the pot you can see. That extra is 5.70 times what you call. Price of a two-thirds-pot call with future winnings added, 5 outs on the turn | Future winnings | Price with them | Your chance minus price | Value of the call | Call? | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | $0 | 28.57% | -17.70 points | -$41.30 | Fold | | $50 | 23.53% | -12.66 points | -$35.87 | Fold | | $100 | 20.00% | -9.13 points | -$30.43 | Fold | | $250 | 13.79% | -2.92 points | -$14.13 | Fold | | $500 | 9.09% | +1.78 points | +$13.04 | Call | 14 outs is the threshold against a two-thirds-pot bet on the turn, a chance of 30.43%. That is 9 more than your 5. ## Turn against flop 5 outs against a two-thirds-pot bet, flop and turn | Street | Chance by the river | Margin over price | Value of the call | Verdict | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Flop, two cards to come | 20.35% | -8.2199 points | -$19.18 | Fold | | Turn, one card to come | 10.87% | -17.7019 points | -$41.30 | Fold | Only the river remains, so there is just one number: 10.87%. For reference, the same draw on the flop was 20.35%, 9.48 points higher, which against 28.57% is a fold. ## The call as outs change How fast does the margin move? About 2.17 points per out on the turn. The rows below keep the two-thirds-pot bet fixed and change only the outs. Outs 3 to 7 on the turn against a two-thirds-pot bet | Outs | By the river | Margin | Verdict | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | [3 outs](https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold/3-outs-turn-vs-two-thirds-pot.md) | 6.52% | -22.05 points | Fold | | [4 outs](https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold/4-outs-turn-vs-two-thirds-pot.md) | 8.70% | -19.88 points | Fold | | 5 outs, this page | 10.87% | -17.70 points | Fold | | [6 outs](https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold/6-outs-turn-vs-two-thirds-pot.md) | 13.04% | -15.53 points | Fold | | [7 outs](https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold/7-outs-turn-vs-two-thirds-pot.md) | 15.22% | -13.35 points | Fold | ## The same draw against other bet sizes Look down the margin column to see where the draw stops paying. Every row uses 5 outs on the turn and a bet of a different size. 5 outs on the turn against every bet size | Bet size | Equity needed | Margin | Verdict | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | quarter-pot | 16.67% | -5.80 points | Fold | | third-pot | 20.00% | -9.13 points | Fold | | two-fifths-pot | 22.22% | -11.35 points | Fold | | half-pot | 25.00% | -14.13 points | Fold | | two-thirds-pot, this page | 28.57% | -17.70 points | Fold | | [three-quarter-pot](https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold/5-outs-turn-vs-three-quarter-pot.md) | 30.00% | -19.13 points | Fold | | pot-size | 33.33% | -22.46 points | Fold | | 1.25x-pot | 35.71% | -24.84 points | Fold | | 1.5x-pot | 37.50% | -26.63 points | Fold | | 2x-pot | 40.00% | -29.13 points | Fold | | 3x-pot | 42.86% | -31.99 points | Fold | | 4x-pot | 44.44% | -33.57 points | Fold | No bet size in the table is a call. The smallest, quarter-pot, needs 16.67% against your 10.87%, and the largest bet this draw could call is only 0.14 times the pot ($13.89 on a $100 pot). ## Next pages to read - [5 outs on the turn](https://georgelipoker.com/outs/5-outs-turn.md) - [Pot odds for a two-thirds-pot bet](https://georgelipoker.com/pot-odds/two-thirds-pot.md) - [Pot odds calculator](https://georgelipoker.com/tools/pot-odds-calculator.md) - [Outs calculator](https://georgelipoker.com/tools/outs-calculator.md) - [Call or fold with a draw](https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold.md) ## Questions ### Are 5 outs on the turn worth a call against a bet of two thirds of the pot? Verdict: fold. A two-thirds-pot bet asks for 28.57% and you have 10.87%, a margin of -17.70 points. For a $66.67 call into a $100 pot, with no later bets and the whole pot won on a hit, the average is -$41.30. ### What is the fewest outs that can call a two-thirds-pot bet on the turn? The threshold is 14 outs. It gives 30.43%, clearing 28.57%, whereas 13 gives only 28.26%. Holding 5 puts you 9 below it, with a chance of 10.87%. ### Which hit chance fits a two-thirds-pot bet on the turn? They are one number here. With a single card to come, 10.87% is both the next-card chance and the by-the-river chance, and it gives a fold against 28.57%, a margin of -17.70 points. ## How this is computed Here is how 10.87% was found. There is one card to come, so the chance is read directly from 5 outs among 46 unseen cards. These figures describe a clean spot. You pay the whole bet, which costs $66.67 of a $233.33 pot (28.57%), collect the whole pot on a hit, meet no more bets, and draw from 46 equally likely cards, with no adjustment for an opponent's hand. Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library. ## Related pages - [5 outs on the turn](https://georgelipoker.com/outs/5-outs-turn.md) - [Pot odds for a two-thirds-pot bet](https://georgelipoker.com/pot-odds/two-thirds-pot.md) - [Pot odds calculator](https://georgelipoker.com/tools/pot-odds-calculator.md) - [Outs calculator](https://georgelipoker.com/tools/outs-calculator.md) - [Call or fold with a draw](https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold.md) ## Related - [Call or Fold With a Draw by Bet Size](https://georgelipoker.com/call-or-fold.md)