15 outs on the turn against a pot-size bet: call or fold

Fold. With 15 outs on the turn, your 32.61% chance falls short of the 33.33% price of a pot-size bet.

Verdict

Fold

15 outs, turn, pot-size bet

  • Chance to hit by the riverone card to come32.61%
  • Equity the call needs$100 into a pot of $30033.33%
  • Margin over the priceyour chance minus the price-0.72 points

Comparing the draw with the bet

Folding beats calling by a hair. 32.61% misses 33.33% by 0.72 points, so the call loses a little on average.

15 out of 46 unseen cards is the shape of a flush draw with an open-ended straight draw, and a single card hits 32.61% of the time.

Worked through on a $100 pot

  • Starting pot$100
  • Size of the bet$100
  • You call$100
  • Total pot after calling$300
  • You can win on a hit$200
  • You lose on a miss$100
  • Your chance to hit32.61%
  • Expected value of calling-$2.17
  • Equity needed to break even33.33%
  • Exact margin over the price-0.7246 points
  • Break-even count of outs15.33 outs
  • Margin measured in outs-0.33 outs

If you win the whole pot on a hit and lose your call otherwise, with no more betting, calling loses $2.17 on average. Hits add $65.22 on average and misses cost $67.39 on average, or -0.022 per dollar called.

Odds say the same thing. Hitting is 2.07 : 1 against, and the pot lays 2 : 1.

The price is 33.33% because your call goes into the pot too. Leave it out and you get 50.00%, a margin of -17.3913 points that does not exist.

Implied odds that would change the answer

The shortfall in dollars is $6.67: the amount a hit would have to win later for 32.61% to be enough. It equals 0.07 times your $100 call.

The call starts to work at 16 outs, where the chance is 34.78%. Your 15 outs fall 1 out below that.

Price of a pot-size call with future winnings added, 15 outs on the turn
Future winningsPrice with themYour chance minus priceValue of the callCall?
$033.33%-0.72 points-$2.17Fold
$5028.57%+4.04 points+$14.13Call
$10025.00%+7.61 points+$30.43Call
$25018.18%+14.43 points+$79.35Call
$50012.50%+20.11 points+$160.87Call

Flop and turn compared

Compare the streets. With two cards left, 15 outs hit 54.12% (a call); with one card left they hit 32.61% (a fold). The difference is 21.51 points.

15 outs against a pot-size bet, flop and turn
StreetChance by the riverMargin over priceValue of the callVerdict
Flop, two cards to come54.12%+20.7832 points+$62.35Call
Turn, one card to come32.61%-0.7246 points-$2.17Fold

Draws around this one

Here are the neighbors of 15 outs, priced against the same 33.33%. One more out lifts your chance by about 2.17 points.

Outs 13 to 17 on the turn against a pot-size bet
OutsBy the riverMarginVerdict
13 outs28.26%-5.07 pointsFold
14 outs30.43%-2.90 pointsFold
15 outs, this page32.61%-0.72 pointsFold
16 outs34.78%+1.45 pointsCall
17 outs36.96%+3.62 pointsCall

Changing the bet, keeping the draw

How much does bet size matter? The price climbs from 16.67% to 44.44% across the list, while 15 outs stay at 32.61%.

The largest bet this draw can call on the turn is 0.94 times the pot ($93.75 on a $100 pot). 15 outs call 6 of the 12 bet sizes listed.

15 outs on the turn against every bet size
Bet sizeEquity neededMarginVerdict
quarter-pot16.67%+15.94 pointsCall
third-pot20.00%+12.61 pointsCall
two-fifths-pot22.22%+10.39 pointsCall
half-pot25.00%+7.61 pointsCall
two-thirds-pot28.57%+4.04 pointsCall
three-quarter-pot30.00%+2.61 pointsCall
pot-size, this page33.33%-0.72 pointsFold
1.25x-pot35.71%-3.11 pointsFold
1.5x-pot37.50%-4.89 pointsFold
2x-pot40.00%-7.39 pointsFold
3x-pot42.86%-10.25 pointsFold
4x-pot44.44%-11.84 pointsFold

How this is computed

Here is how 32.61% was found. There is one card to come, so the chance is read directly from 15 outs among 46 unseen cards.

The model is deliberately simple: call everything, win everything on a hit, face no more bets, deal from 46 equally likely unseen cards, and ignore an opponent's holding. With the price at $100 / $300 = 33.33%, later streets and shared outs are what change the real answer.

Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library.

Updated

Questions

Should you call a pot-size bet with 15 outs on the turn?

Reduce the question to a comparison of two numbers: 32.61% to hit and 33.33% to break even. The first minus the second is -0.72 points, which makes this a fold, and the call averages -$2.17 on a $100 pot if no more betting follows.

How many outs do you need to call a pot-size bet on the turn?

Look for 16 outs. That is the smallest count whose chance, 34.78%, reaches the 33.33% price; 15 manages 32.61%. You have 15, so you are 1 behind the minimum.

Which hit chance fits a pot-size bet on the turn?

Both views collapse into 32.61%. Against the 33.33% price of a pot-size bet, that leaves -0.72 points and a fold, and the choice between one card and two no longer applies.

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