J9s
62.48%
Wins 61.83%, ties 1.31%
T8s
37.52%
Wins 36.86%, ties 1.31%
J9s against T8s: the numbers
| Hand | Wins | Ties | Loses | Equity |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| J9s | 61.829 | 1.306 | 36.865 | 62.482 |
| T8s | 36.865 | 1.306 | 61.829 | 37.518 |
Both hands are suited hands: J9s and T8s. With no overlap in ranks, every card that pairs one hand is a card that does not pair the other.
J9s is ahead, but T8s is far from dead: it takes 369 of every 1,000 deals outright. Of every 100 boards, about 1.31 are split pots, and the equity figures already include them.
Among the 169 starting hands, J9s is number 55 and T8s is number 73 by strength against a random hand.
| Hand | Boards won, about | Boards tied, about | Boards lost, about |
|---|---|---|---|
| J9s | 16,939,000 | 358,000 | 10,100,000 |
| T8s | 10,100,000 | 358,000 | 16,939,000 |
Exact total: 16 deals times 1,712,304 boards. The other three counts come from the five-decimal percentages and are rounded to the nearest thousand, so read them as approximate.
| Hand | Equity as odds (to 1) | Wins one deal in | Loses one deal in | Pot odds needed to call (to 1) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| J9s | 1.665 | 1.617 | 2.713 | 0.600 |
| T8s | 0.600 | 2.713 | 1.617 | 1.665 |
In the last column, a pot-to-call ratio at or above the figure makes a call break even or better at this equity.
Who is ahead on which flops
The flop changes the picture. J9s does best on paired flops, at 64.33%, and worst on monotone flops, at 59.35%. J9s stays ahead on all five textures.
| Flop | Share of flops | J9s wins | Ties | T8s wins | J9s equity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rainbow, ten or higher | 24.543 | 63.198 | 0.778 | 36.024 | 63.587 |
| Rainbow, nine or lower | 6.366 | 60.305 | 0.464 | 39.231 | 60.537 |
| Two-tone | 46.727 | 61.520 | 0.649 | 37.831 | 61.844 |
| Monotone | 5.273 | 57.519 | 3.662 | 38.819 | 59.350 |
| Paired | 17.091 | 62.605 | 3.448 | 33.947 | 64.329 |
Rainbow flops have three suits, two-tone flops repeat one suit, monotone flops are all one suit, and paired flops repeat a rank.
Compared with a random hand
Each hand has a baseline against a random hand: 55.66% for J9s, 52.33% for T8s. Here the change is +6.82 and -14.81 points.
| Case | Equity here | Against a random hand | Change in points | Times the random-hand equity |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| J9s, all flops | 62.482 | 55.662 | +6.820 | 1.12253 |
| J9s, rainbow, ten or higher | 63.587 | 55.662 | +7.925 | 1.14238 |
| J9s, rainbow, nine or lower | 60.537 | 55.662 | +4.875 | 1.08758 |
| J9s, two-tone | 61.844 | 55.662 | +6.182 | 1.11106 |
| J9s, monotone | 59.350 | 55.662 | +3.688 | 1.06626 |
| J9s, paired | 64.329 | 55.662 | +8.667 | 1.15571 |
| T8s, all flops | 37.518 | 52.334 | -14.816 | 0.71690 |
| T8s, rainbow, ten or higher | 36.413 | 52.334 | -15.921 | 0.69578 |
| T8s, rainbow, nine or lower | 39.463 | 52.334 | -12.871 | 0.75406 |
| T8s, two-tone | 38.156 | 52.334 | -14.178 | 0.72909 |
| T8s, monotone | 40.650 | 52.334 | -11.684 | 0.77674 |
| T8s, paired | 35.671 | 52.334 | -16.663 | 0.68160 |
Does a shared suit matter?
Looking only at deals where the hands share a suit, J9s has 64.90%; looking only at deals where they do not, 61.68%. J9s does better with a shared suit, by 3.22 points.
| Deals | Specific deals | Share of deals | J9s wins | Ties | T8s wins | J9s equity |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Share a suit | 4 | 25.00 | 64.191 | 1.423 | 34.386 | 64.903 |
| No shared suit | 12 | 75.00 | 61.042 | 1.267 | 37.691 | 61.675 |
How often this matchup comes up
The class pair covers 16 combinations of specific cards in a fixed seat order, 0.0010% of 1,624,350, and 32 (0.0020%) in either order.
A worked example
Try it with money: two players each put in $100 and the whole board runs out every possible way. J9s averages $124.96 from the $200, up $24.96; T8s averages $75.04, down $24.96.
Think in thousands: about 618 of 1,000 go to J9s, about 369 go to T8s, and about 13 are chopped.
The same matchup from the other side
The reversed view, T8s against J9s, shows 37.52% for T8s and 62.48% for J9s. It is the same count, so it redirects here.
Keep exploring
Open the calculator with Js9s against Th8h already entered, a deal with no shared suit, and change any card to try your own hand. The matchups after it each swap one hand for a nearby one in the ranking.
How this was computed
The page is built from a full enumeration: 1,712,304 boards, every suit pattern of the 16 specific deals, both seven-card hands evaluated. A tie is worth half a win to each hand, and a board is tallied under each of its ten possible flops for the texture rows.
Source: our own exact count from the GeorgeLiPoker poker math library. No outside data is used.
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