88 vs 65s: preflop equity

Averaged over every possible board, 88 is ahead of 65s by 60.12 points of equity, 80.06% to 19.94%.

88

80.06%

Wins 79.60%, ties 0.92%

65s

19.94%

Wins 19.48%, ties 0.92%

Equity counts a tie as half a win. Exact over every board.

88 against 65s: the numbers

Exact preflop results for 88 against 65s, in percent
HandWinsTiesLosesEquity
8879.5960.92019.48480.056
65s19.4840.92079.59619.944

One side is a pocket pair, the other is a suited hand. Here a pair faces two cards that are both smaller, so the other hand needs to pair up and still be behind.

A gap this wide means 65s is in trouble before the flop and has few good runouts. Of every 100 boards, about 0.92 are split pots, and the equity figures already include them.

88 ranks number 7 of 169 starting hands, and 65s ranks number 128, by equity against a random hand.

Boards behind the percentages: 41,095,296 counted in all
HandBoards won, aboutBoards tied, aboutBoards lost, about
8832,710,000378,0008,007,000
65s8,007,000378,00032,710,000

The total is exact: 24 specific deals times 1,712,304 boards. The three counts are approximate, worked out from the percentages to five decimals and rounded to the nearest thousand.

88 against 65s read as odds
HandEquity as odds (to 1)Wins one deal inLoses one deal inPot odds needed to call (to 1)
884.0141.2565.1320.249
65s0.2495.1321.2564.014

The last column is the smallest pot odds, written as a pot-to-call ratio, at which a call breaks even with this equity.

Who is ahead on which flops

By flop texture, 88's equity runs from 67.38% on low rainbow flops (nine high or lower) up to 84.69% on rainbow flops topped by a ten or better. 88 stays ahead on all five textures, but the swing between them is large, so how the flop looks matters a great deal.

88 against 65s by flop texture, in percent
FlopShare of flops88 winsTies65s wins88 equity
Rainbow, ten or higher25.84484.4140.54815.03884.688
Rainbow, nine or lower5.06567.0980.56332.33967.379
Two-tone46.54578.0300.51821.45278.289
Monotone5.21273.1682.60424.22874.470
Paired17.33482.2032.15415.64383.280

Read the flop types this way: rainbow has three suits, two-tone has two cards of one suit, monotone has three, and paired repeats a rank.

Compared with a random hand

Start from the random-hand figures, 69.16% for 88 and 43.13% for 65s. This opponent changes them by +10.90 and -23.19 points.

88 and 65s here compared with each against a random hand, in percent
CaseEquity hereAgainst a random handChange in pointsTimes the random-hand equity
88, all flops80.05669.163+10.8931.15750
88, rainbow, ten or higher84.68869.163+15.5251.22447
88, rainbow, nine or lower67.37969.163-1.7840.97421
88, two-tone78.28969.163+9.1261.13195
88, monotone74.47069.163+5.3071.07673
88, paired83.28069.163+14.1171.20411
65s, all flops19.94443.133-23.1890.46238
65s, rainbow, ten or higher15.31243.133-27.8210.35500
65s, rainbow, nine or lower32.62143.133-10.5120.75629
65s, two-tone21.71143.133-21.4220.50335
65s, monotone25.53043.133-17.6030.59189
65s, paired16.72043.133-26.4130.38764

Does a shared suit matter?

Looking only at deals where the hands share a suit, 88 has 80.61%; looking only at deals where they do not, 79.50%. 88 does better with a shared suit, by 1.11 points.

88 against 65s by suit overlap, in percent
DealsSpecific dealsShare of deals88 winsTies65s wins88 equity
Share a suit1250.0080.1310.96218.90780.612
No shared suit1250.0079.0610.87820.06179.500

How often this matchup comes up

This page stands for 24 specific-card matchups (0.0015% of 1,624,350 ordered deals), or 48 once you count the seats both ways (0.0030%).

A worked example

Put $100 each into a $200 pot and deal every board once: 88 averages $160.12 back, ahead of its $100 by $60.12, while 65s averages $39.88, short of its $100 by $60.12.

In 1,000 deals of exactly this matchup, expect about 796 won outright by 88, about 195 won outright by 65s and about 9 split.

The same matchup from the other side

The mirror image, 65s against 88, is 19.94% to 80.06%, and its address redirects to this page.

The calculator link fills in 8s8h against 6d5d, a deal where the two hands share no suit. Change any card to test your own hand. The neighboring matchups below swap one of the two hands for one of similar strength.

How this was computed

Method: exact enumeration. The 24 specific deals are grouped by suit pattern, each is run against all 1,712,304 boards, and both seven-card hands are scored. Equity adds half of every tie, and flop textures are tallied over the ten flops inside each board.

Source: our own exact count from the GeorgeLiPoker poker math library. No outside data is used.

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