88 vs J9s: preflop equity

The exact count puts 88 at 51.87% and J9s at 48.13% when the two hands see all five board cards.

88

51.87%

Wins 51.63%, ties 0.48%

J9s

48.13%

Wins 47.89%, ties 0.48%

Equity counts a tie as half a win. Exact over every board.

88 against J9s: the numbers

Exact preflop results for 88 against J9s, in percent
HandWinsTiesLosesEquity
8851.6310.48247.88751.872
J9s47.8870.48251.63148.128

88, a pocket pair, plays J9s, a suited hand. One hand holds a pair and the other holds two cards that both outrank it, which keeps the equity closer than most people expect.

88 leads by less than 4 points of equity, so the result of any one deal is close to a toss-up. A split pot comes up on 0.48% of boards, so the wins and the equity differ by half of that.

In the ranking of all 169 starting hands, 88 is number 7 and J9s is number 55.

Boards behind the percentages: 41,095,296 counted in all
HandBoards won, aboutBoards tied, aboutBoards lost, about
8821,218,000198,00019,679,000
J9s19,679,000198,00021,218,000

The board total is exact, 24 deals at 1,712,304 boards each. Won, tied and lost counts are rounded to the nearest thousand from the five-decimal percentages.

88 against J9s read as odds
HandEquity as odds (to 1)Wins one deal inLoses one deal inPot odds needed to call (to 1)
881.0781.9372.0880.928
J9s0.9282.0881.9371.078

The last column is the break-even price: the pot odds a call needs to offer, as a ratio of pot to call.

Who is ahead on which flops

Break the boards down by their first three cards and 88 is strongest on low rainbow flops (nine high or lower) (60.69%) and weakest on two-tone flops (49.70%). Rainbow flops topped by a ten or better and two-tone flops favor J9s, the hand that is behind overall.

88 against J9s by flop texture, in percent
FlopShare of flops88 winsTiesJ9s wins88 equity
Rainbow, ten or higher25.22049.7570.25549.98849.885
Rainbow, nine or lower5.68960.3440.68138.97560.685
Two-tone46.54549.5430.31250.14549.699
Monotone5.21249.6022.41447.98450.809
Paired17.33457.7140.62241.66458.025

Rainbow flops have three suits, two-tone flops repeat one suit, monotone flops are all one suit, and paired flops repeat a rank.

Compared with a random hand

Against one random hand instead, 88 holds 69.16% and J9s holds 55.66%. Facing each other changes that by -17.29 points for 88 and -7.53 points for J9s.

88 and J9s here compared with each against a random hand, in percent
CaseEquity hereAgainst a random handChange in pointsTimes the random-hand equity
88, all flops51.87269.163-17.2910.75000
88, rainbow, ten or higher49.88569.163-19.2780.72127
88, rainbow, nine or lower60.68569.163-8.4780.87742
88, two-tone49.69969.163-19.4640.71858
88, monotone50.80969.163-18.3540.73463
88, paired58.02569.163-11.1380.83896
J9s, all flops48.12855.662-7.5340.86465
J9s, rainbow, ten or higher50.11555.662-5.5470.90034
J9s, rainbow, nine or lower39.31555.662-16.3470.70632
J9s, two-tone50.30155.662-5.3610.90369
J9s, monotone49.19155.662-6.4710.88374
J9s, paired41.97555.662-13.6870.75411

Does a shared suit matter?

When the hands share a suit, 88 holds 51.99%; when they do not, it holds 51.75%. The two rows differ by only 0.24 points, so suits barely change this matchup.

88 against J9s by suit overlap, in percent
DealsSpecific dealsShare of deals88 winsTiesJ9s wins88 equity
Share a suit1250.0051.7290.52247.74951.990
No shared suit1250.0051.5330.44148.02651.754

How often this matchup comes up

Out of 1,624,350 ways to deal two seats two cards each, 24 are 88 in one seat and J9s in the other (0.0015%); with the seats swapped too, 48 (0.0030%).

A worked example

Put $100 each into a $200 pot and deal every board once: 88 averages $103.74 back, ahead of its $100 by $3.74, while J9s averages $96.26, short of its $100 by $3.74.

A thousand deals look like this: 88 takes 516, J9s takes 479, 5 are ties.

The same matchup from the other side

J9s against 88 adds nothing new: it is 48.13% for J9s and 51.87% for 88, the same figures reversed.

Open the calculator with 8s8h against Jd9d already entered, a deal with no shared suit, and change any card to try your own hand. The matchups after it each swap one hand for a nearby one in the ranking.

How this was computed

The figures are counted, not estimated: 1,712,304 boards for every suit pattern of the 24 specific deals, with both seven-card hands compared each time. Equity gives half a win for a tie. For the flop rows, a board is counted once under each of the ten flops inside it.

Source: our own exact count from the GeorgeLiPoker poker math library. No outside data is used.

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