7 outs on the turn against a two-thirds-pot bet: call or fold

The numbers favor a fold. 7 outs on the turn reach 15.22%, and a two-thirds-pot bet asks for 28.57%.

Verdict

Fold

7 outs, turn, two-thirds-pot bet

  • Chance to hit by the riverone card to come15.22%
  • Equity the call needs$66.67 into a pot of $233.3328.57%
  • Margin over the priceyour chance minus the price-13.35 points

Comparing the draw with the bet

15.22% against 28.57%: the draw trails the price by 13.35 points. On this turn against a two-thirds-pot bet, that is an easy fold.

Think of 7 outs as a running total of every card that improves you. 7 of the 46 unseen cards qualify, which is 15.22% on one card.

Counting the chips on a $100 pot

  • The pot before betting$100
  • Bet$66.67
  • You call$66.67
  • Total pot after calling$233.33
  • Net gain when you hit$166.67
  • Net loss when you miss$66.67
  • How often you hit15.22%
  • Average value of the call-$31.16
  • Price of the call28.57%
  • Your chance minus the price, unrounded-13.3540 points
  • Break-even count of outs13.14 outs
  • Outs above the price-6.14 outs

If you win the whole pot on a hit and lose your call otherwise, with no more betting, calling loses $31.16 on average. Hits add $25.36 on average and misses cost $56.52 on average, or -0.467 per dollar called.

As odds, 5.57 : 1 against hitting meets pot odds of 2.5 : 1.

A common slip is to divide the bet by the pot after the bet but before your call. That gives 40.00% instead of 28.57% and would put your margin at -24.7826 points. Using the bet over the starting pot, 66.67%, is further off and would put it at -51.4493 points.

Implied odds that would change the answer

Think of it as a missing $204.76. When the draw hits you must collect that much beyond the pot for the $66.67 call to pay for itself, 3.07 times your call.

Outs are the other lever. At 14 outs you reach 30.43% by the river, enough for a two-thirds-pot bet, and you are 7 outs away.

Price of a two-thirds-pot call with future winnings added, 7 outs on the turn
Future winningsPrice with themYour chance minus priceValue of the callCall?
$028.57%-13.35 points-$31.16Fold
$5023.53%-8.31 points-$23.55Fold
$10020.00%-4.78 points-$15.94Fold
$25013.79%+1.42 points+$6.88Call
$5009.09%+6.13 points+$44.93Call

The same draw on the flop

Compare the streets. With two cards left, 7 outs hit 27.84% (a fold); with one card left they hit 15.22% (a fold). The difference is 12.63 points.

7 outs against a two-thirds-pot bet, flop and turn
StreetChance by the riverMargin over priceValue of the callVerdict
Flop, two cards to come27.84%-0.7268 points-$1.70Fold
Turn, one card to come15.22%-13.3540 points-$31.16Fold

How the answer moves with outs

A few outs either way, against a two-thirds-pot bet that needs 28.57%. The chance climbs about 2.17 points with each extra out.

Outs 5 to 9 on the turn against a two-thirds-pot bet
OutsBy the riverMarginVerdict
5 outs10.87%-17.70 pointsFold
6 outs13.04%-15.53 pointsFold
7 outs, this page15.22%-13.35 pointsFold
8 outs17.39%-11.18 pointsFold
9 outs19.57%-9.01 pointsFold

Bigger and smaller bets

Bigger bets ask for more equity while your chance stays at 15.22%. Here is every bet size against the same draw, with the row for this page marked.

Your draw can face a bet of up to 0.22 times the pot ($21.88 on a $100 pot) and still break even. That is under the quarter-pot bet, so none of the 12 sizes is a call.

7 outs on the turn against every bet size
Bet sizeEquity neededMarginVerdict
quarter-pot16.67%-1.45 pointsFold
third-pot20.00%-4.78 pointsFold
two-fifths-pot22.22%-7.00 pointsFold
half-pot25.00%-9.78 pointsFold
two-thirds-pot, this page28.57%-13.35 pointsFold
three-quarter-pot30.00%-14.78 pointsFold
pot-size33.33%-18.12 pointsFold
1.25x-pot35.71%-20.50 pointsFold
1.5x-pot37.50%-22.28 pointsFold
2x-pot40.00%-24.78 pointsFold
3x-pot42.86%-27.64 pointsFold
4x-pot44.44%-29.23 pointsFold

How this is computed

The number is exact rather than estimated. 7 of the 46 cards that could come are outs, which is 15.22%.

The numbers are a baseline rather than a prediction for one hand. The price is 28.57%, from $66.67 into $233.33, and the chance assumes a whole pot won on a hit, no more betting, 46 equally likely unseen cards, and no cards removed for the other player.

Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library.

Updated

Questions

Should you call a two-thirds-pot bet with 7 outs on the turn?

By the numbers it is a fold. 7 outs on the turn hit 15.22% by the river, a two-thirds-pot bet needs 28.57%, and the margin is -13.35 points. That assumes you call the full $66.67 and no more betting follows, and it values the call at -$31.16 per $100 pot.

What is the fewest outs that can call a two-thirds-pot bet on the turn?

14 outs is the line. At 14 the chance is 30.43%, enough for 28.57%; one fewer gives 28.26%, which is not. Your 7 outs sit 7 below it on the turn, at 15.22%.

Should you use the chance on the next card or by the river?

The question belongs to the flop. On the turn, 7 outs among 46 cards give 15.22% either way, and against 28.57% that is a fold by 13.35 points.

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