Pot odds facing a 2x-pot bet

Call a 2x-pot bet and you risk $200 for a $300 prize, which sets your price at 40.00%. The table of draws shows which of eight common draws beat 40.00% by the river from the flop and on the turn.

Equity a call needs

40.00%

against a 2x-pot bet

  • Pot oddsfor every 1 you call1.5 : 1
  • Bet on a $100 pottwice the pot$200
  • Pot after your callyou put in $200$500

The price of a 2x-pot bet

This is a steep price, and the turn makes it harder to meet, because only one card is left to come.

e = f / (1 + 2f)f = 2e = 2 / (1 + 2 x 2) = 40.00%Pot odds = (1 + 2) / 2 = 1.5 : 1

Put 1.5 : 1 next to 40.00% and you have one price in two forms; the call is right when your equity beats it.

A $100 pot facing a 2x-pot bet

Picture a $100 pot. A bet of $200 comes in, so $300 is on the table and the decision is yours.

  • Pot before the bet$100
  • Opponent bets$200
  • You call$200
  • Pot after your call$500
  • You risk$200
  • You can win$300
  • Equity needed40.00%

The final pot of $500 is the number to divide by. $200 over $500 is 40.00%.

Which draws can call a 2x-pot bet

Eight draws, one price. The outs count sets your chance, and 40.00% sets the bar every row must clear.

You can continue from the flop with 2 of the 8 draws, and a flush draw with a gutshot is the first on the list that qualifies.

On the turn none of the 8 draws reaches 40.00%; even a flush draw with an open-ended straight draw, at 15 outs, hits 32.61%.

Common draws against a 2x-pot bet, which needs 40.00%
DrawOutsFlop: hit by the riverFlop marginFlop verdictTurn: hit on the riverTurn marginTurn verdict
A pocket pair that wants a set28.42%-31.58 pointsFold4.35%-35.65 pointsFold
One overcard to top pair312.49%-27.51 pointsFold6.52%-33.48 pointsFold
A gutshot straight draw416.47%-23.53 pointsFold8.70%-31.30 pointsFold
Two overcards624.14%-15.86 pointsFold13.04%-26.96 pointsFold
An open-ended straight draw831.45%-8.55 pointsFold17.39%-22.61 pointsFold
A flush draw934.97%-5.03 pointsFold19.57%-20.43 pointsFold
A flush draw with a gutshot1244.96%+4.96 pointsCall26.09%-13.91 pointsFold
A flush draw with an open-ended straight draw1554.12%+14.12 pointsCall32.61%-7.39 pointsFold

Implied odds against a 2x-pot bet

With implied odds, the pot you win is not just $500 but $500 plus whatever you collect later, W. The price turns into $200 / ($500 + W).

The price drops in steps: 40.00% with nothing extra, 36.36% with $50, and 20.00% with $500.

With 19.57% on the turn, a flush draw is behind 40.00%; a further $522.22 from later bets would level it.

Against a player who bets big whenever you hit, implied odds are real. Against one who folds, they are close to zero.

A 2x-pot bet leaves little room to be wrong about your outs. If a card makes you second best, you can lose more than $200 on later streets.

The equity a call needs against a 2x-pot bet as future winnings W grow
Future winnings WPot after call plus WEquity neededChange from the plain priceFlush draw margin from the flop
$0$50040.00%0.00 points-5.03 points
$50$55036.36%-3.64 points-1.40 points
$100$60033.33%-6.67 points+1.63 points
$250$75026.67%-13.33 points+8.30 points
$500$1,00020.00%-20.00 points+14.97 points

2x-pot next to the other sizes

The next smaller size is 1.5x-pot, at 37.50%. Moving from there to 2x-pot adds 2.50 points to the price.

The 3x-pot bet is the neighbor above. It needs 42.86%, so it is 2.86 points steeper than this size.

The outs that justify a call

Count your outs on the flop. With 11 outs you get 41.72%, enough for 40.00%; with fewer, you fall to 38.39% or less.

On the turn the line moves up to 19 outs, good for 41.30% against 40.00%. One fewer reaches only 39.13%.

How this is computed

Every number on this page follows from one input, a bet of twice the pot into $100. From it the page computes the price, 40.00%, and then checks eight draws against that price.

Let f be the bet as a share of the pot. Calling adds f to a pot that already holds 1 + f, so the final pot is 1 + 2f and the price is f / (1 + 2f) = 40.00% at f = 2.

Assumed throughout: a full call, no more betting, the pot won whole when you hit, and a fair deal from 47 unseen cards on the flop or 46 on the turn.

Method: the closed form f / (1 + 2f) computed by the GeorgeLiPoker math library, with draw chances counted from the unseen cards.

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Questions

What equity do you need to call a 2x-pot bet?

40.00% is the number. Your $200 call lifts the pot to $500, so you are buying 40.00% of it. Compare your chance of winning with 40.00% and call when you are above it.

How many outs do you need against a 2x-pot bet?

The answer for the flop is 11 outs, good for 41.72% by the river against 40.00%. On the turn you need 19 outs. Remember to subtract outs that a better hand also wants.

How much do implied odds help against a 2x-pot bet?

Implied odds turn 40.00% into 20.00% when you can win $500 later. Reverse implied odds do the opposite, so keep a little margin when your outs could lose to a better hand.

Can you call a 2x-pot bet with a flush draw?

Use 9 outs for the draw. On the flop its chance to hit by the river is 34.97%, which is below 40.00%, so it is a fold. On the turn the chance is 19.57%, which is below 40.00%, so it is a fold. A flush that loses to a bigger flush is a risk, so keep a margin.

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