Pot odds facing a 3x-pot bet

This is the price of calling a 3x-pot bet: 42.86% equity, or 1.33 : 1, on a $100 pot. The fewest outs that can call from the flop is 12, and the rest of the page shows why.

Equity a call needs

42.86%

against a 3x-pot bet

  • Pot oddsfor every 1 you call1.33 : 1
  • Bet on a $100 potthree times the pot$300
  • Pot after your callyou put in $300$700

The price of a 3x-pot bet

Large bets cut your odds to 1.33 : 1. Against a 3x-pot bet you need a lot of equity, or a lot of money still to win behind.

e = f / (1 + 2f)f = 3e = 3 / (1 + 2 x 3) = 42.86%Pot odds = (1 + 3) / 3 = 1.33 : 1

Odds of 1.33 : 1 and an equity bar of 42.86% say the same thing about this call.

A $100 pot facing a 3x-pot bet

Run the numbers on $100: the bet is $300, the pot is $400 and your call is $300.

  • Pot before the bet$100
  • Opponent bets$300
  • You call$300
  • Pot after your call$700
  • You risk$300
  • You can win$400
  • Equity needed42.86%

Your call lifts the pot to $700. Dividing $300 by $700 gives 42.86%, the equity you must have.

Which draws can call a 3x-pot bet

Use this table to see which draws are above 42.86%. Positive margins are calls, negative margins are folds.

From the flop, 2 of the 8 draws clear 42.86%, and the smallest of them is a flush draw with a gutshot, with 12 outs.

A turn call needs help from future bets, since even a flush draw with an open-ended straight draw only has 32.61% against 42.86%.

Common draws against a 3x-pot bet, which needs 42.86%
DrawOutsFlop: hit by the riverFlop marginFlop verdictTurn: hit on the riverTurn marginTurn verdict
A pocket pair that wants a set28.42%-34.44 pointsFold4.35%-38.51 pointsFold
One overcard to top pair312.49%-30.37 pointsFold6.52%-36.34 pointsFold
A gutshot straight draw416.47%-26.39 pointsFold8.70%-34.16 pointsFold
Two overcards624.14%-18.71 pointsFold13.04%-29.81 pointsFold
An open-ended straight draw831.45%-11.40 pointsFold17.39%-25.47 pointsFold
A flush draw934.97%-7.89 pointsFold19.57%-23.29 pointsFold
A flush draw with a gutshot1244.96%+2.10 pointsCall26.09%-16.77 pointsFold
A flush draw with an open-ended straight draw1554.12%+11.26 pointsCall32.61%-10.25 pointsFold

Implied odds against a 3x-pot bet

Drawing hands often win more than the pot when they hit. Add that extra, W, to the pot of $700 and divide $300 by the total.

Even the first step helps: with $50 extra, the price is 40.00%. With $500 extra it is 25.00%.

A flush draw on the turn hits 19.57% of the time, short of 42.86%. It needs about $833.33 of future winnings to break even.

When the stacks left behind are shallow, the bet of $300 may use up most of what is left, and implied odds shrink to nothing.

The mirror of implied odds is expensive: you hit, you bet, and a better hand calls. When that is likely, assume the price is higher than 42.86%.

The equity a call needs against a 3x-pot bet as future winnings W grow
Future winnings WPot after call plus WEquity neededChange from the plain priceFlush draw margin from the flop
$0$70042.86%0.00 points-7.89 points
$50$75040.00%-2.86 points-5.03 points
$100$80037.50%-5.36 points-2.53 points
$250$95031.58%-11.28 points+3.39 points
$500$1,20025.00%-17.86 points+9.97 points

3x-pot next to the other sizes

Look one size down and 2x-pot sets the bar at 40.00%, 2.86 points below 42.86%.

At the next size above, 4x-pot, the equity needed is 44.44%. The gap from 42.86% is 1.59 points.

The outs that justify a call

Break-even on the flop sits between 11 and 12 outs: 41.72% is too low and 44.96% is enough.

The turn cut-off is 20 outs, which hits 43.48%. The step below it, 41.30%, is not enough for 42.86%.

How this is computed

Here is what is computed: your call of $300, a final pot of $700, the price 42.86%, the odds 1.33 : 1, and the margin of eight common draws over that price.

Write the bet as a fraction f of the pot. Your call is f, the pot after the call is 1 + 2f, and the ratio is f / (1 + 2f). For f = 3 the ratio is 42.86%, and the pot odds are (1 + f) / f = 1.33 : 1.

The price ignores later betting and assumes a hit wins the pot whole. Draw chances use 47 unseen cards from the flop and 46 from the turn, with each card as likely as any other.

Method: the closed form f / (1 + 2f) computed by the GeorgeLiPoker math library, with draw chances counted from the unseen cards.

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Questions

What equity do you need to call a 3x-pot bet?

Required equity is 42.86%, which is 1.33 : 1 in odds. The figure holds for any pot size, because only the size of the bet next to the pot matters: three times the pot. Scale the dollars and the percent does not move.

How many outs do you need against a 3x-pot bet?

Two cards to come mean 12 outs are enough: 44.96% beats 42.86%. On the turn you need 20 outs. Keep the count honest, since shared outs shrink your real chance.

How much do implied odds help against a 3x-pot bet?

Implied odds can help a lot. With $500 of expected future winnings, the equity you need falls from 42.86% to 25.00%. Use a number you can defend, because the extra money only arrives when your opponent pays you off after you hit.

Can you call a 3x-pot bet with a flush draw?

A flush draw has 9 outs. On the flop its chance to hit by the river is 34.97%, which is below 42.86%, so it is a fold. On the turn the chance is 19.57%, which is below 42.86%, so it is a fold. Add any implied odds on top, and subtract outs that a better hand could share.

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