12 outs on the flop against a half-pot bet: call or fold

Here is why a call works on the flop: a half-pot bet needs 25.00% equity, and 12 outs supply 44.96%.

Verdict

Call

12 outs, flop, half-pot bet

  • Chance to hit by the rivertwo cards to come44.96%
  • Equity the call needs$50 into a pot of $20025.00%
  • Margin over the priceyour chance minus the price+19.96 points

Chance against price

The price is 25.00% and your chance is 44.96%. You sit 19.96 points above the line, which is a wide gap, so you call.

The usual home for 12 outs is a flush draw with a gutshot. One card from the 47 unseen ones completes it 25.53% of the time.

A $100 pot, step by step

  • Starting pot$100
  • Size of the bet$50
  • Your call$50
  • Pot with your call in$200
  • You can win on a hit$150
  • Net loss when you miss$50
  • Chance to hit by the river44.96%
  • Expected value of calling+$39.92
  • Equity needed to break even25.00%
  • Unrounded margin+19.9584 points
  • Break-even count of outs6.23 outs
  • Outs above the price+5.77 outs

If you win the whole pot on a hit and lose your call otherwise, with no more betting, calling gains $39.92 on average. Hits add $67.44 on average and misses cost $27.52 on average, or +0.798 per dollar called.

Stated as odds, you are 1.22 : 1 against hitting and the call gets 3 : 1 from the pot.

One easy error is to use 33.33%, the bet over the pot before your call, as the price. The right price is 25.00%, and the mistaken margin would be +11.6250 points. The bet over the starting pot, 50.00%, would claim -5.0416 points.

Reverse implied odds and your margin

The call survives losing up to 5 outs. At 7 outs the chance is 27.84%, just enough for 25.00%.

If hitting means paying off a bigger hand later, the call survives a loss of $88.79. That is 1.78 times the $50 call.

Price of a half-pot call if you give money back after a hit, 12 outs on the flop
Given back laterPrice with itYour chance minus priceValue of the callCall?
$025.00%+19.96 points+$39.92Call
$1026.32%+18.64 points+$35.42Call
$2528.57%+16.39 points+$28.68Call
$5033.33%+11.63 points+$17.44Call
$10050.00%-5.04 points-$5.04Fold

The next card against the whole runout

No conflict here: 44.96% for two cards and 25.53% for one both give a call against the 25.00% price, so you need not decide which view applies.

12 outs against a half-pot bet, one view per row
Cards countedChanceMargin over priceValue of the callVerdict
By the river, two cards44.96%+19.9584 points+$39.92Call
Next card only25.53%+0.5319 points+$1.06Call

Neighbors of this draw

How fast does the margin move? About 3.15 points per out on the flop. The rows below keep the half-pot bet fixed and change only the outs.

Outs 10 to 14 on the flop against a half-pot bet
OutsBy the riverMarginVerdict
10 outs38.39%+13.39 pointsCall
11 outs41.72%+16.72 pointsCall
12 outs, this page44.96%+19.96 pointsCall
13 outs48.10%+23.10 pointsCall
14 outs51.16%+26.16 pointsCall

Changing the bet, keeping the draw

The same 12 outs on the flop meet a different price at each bet size. The table runs from the smallest bet to the largest, and the row for this page is marked.

Your 44.96% chance tops every price in the table, so every bet size is a call: the largest price, 44.44%, is still below it.

12 outs on the flop against every bet size
Bet sizeEquity neededMarginVerdict
quarter-pot16.67%+28.29 pointsCall
third-pot20.00%+24.96 pointsCall
two-fifths-pot22.22%+22.74 pointsCall
half-pot, this page25.00%+19.96 pointsCall
two-thirds-pot28.57%+16.39 pointsCall
three-quarter-pot30.00%+14.96 pointsCall
pot-size33.33%+11.63 pointsCall
1.25x-pot35.71%+9.24 pointsCall
1.5x-pot37.50%+7.46 pointsCall
2x-pot40.00%+4.96 pointsCall
3x-pot42.86%+2.10 pointsCall
4x-pot44.44%+0.51 pointsCall

How this is computed

The chance rests on counting, not on a rule of thumb. Blank pairs: 595 out of 1,081; hit chance: 44.96%.

These figures describe a clean spot. You pay the whole bet, which costs $50 of a $200 pot (25.00%), collect the whole pot on a hit, meet no more bets, and draw from 47 equally likely cards, with no adjustment for an opponent's hand.

Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library.

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Questions

Are 12 outs on the flop worth a call against a bet of half the pot?

Your chance, 44.96%, set against the 25.00% price gives +19.96 points and a call. With a $100 pot, a $50 call and no more betting, the average value of the call is +$39.92.

What is the minimum number of outs for a half-pot bet on the flop?

The threshold is 7 outs. It gives 27.84%, clearing 25.00%, whereas 6 gives only 24.14%. Holding 12 puts you 5 above it, with a chance of 44.96%.

One card or two: which number belongs next to the 25.00% price?

Pick the number that matches the street plan: 44.96% for seeing both cards for one bet, 25.53% for paying card by card. Both face 25.00%, and the verdict is call either way.

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