16 outs on the flop against a three-quarter-pot bet: call or fold

Here is why a call works on the flop: a three-quarter-pot bet needs 30.00% equity, and 16 outs supply 56.98%.

Verdict

Call

16 outs, flop, three-quarter-pot bet

  • Chance to hit by the rivertwo cards to come56.98%
  • Equity the call needs$75 into a pot of $25030.00%
  • Margin over the priceyour chance minus the price+26.98 points

The price of the call

The price is 30.00% and your chance is 56.98%. You sit 26.98 points above the line, which is a wide gap, so you call.

A count of 16 outs is usually the sum of more than one draw. Out of 47 unseen cards, one card helps 34.04% of the time.

The $100 pot example

  • The pot before betting$100
  • Bet$75
  • Chips you put in$75
  • Pot with your call in$250
  • Net gain when you hit$175
  • You lose on a miss$75
  • Probability of a hit56.98%
  • Expected value of a call+$67.46
  • Price of the call30.00%
  • Exact margin over the price+26.9843 points
  • Outs at break-even7.59 outs
  • Outs to spare, exactly+8.41 outs

Suppose a hit wins the entire pot, a miss loses your call, and no more betting follows. The average gain is $99.72, the average loss is $32.26, and calling gains $67.46 on average, or +0.899 per dollar called.

Written as odds, the pot lays 2.33 : 1 while the draw is 0.75 : 1 against.

Watch the pot you divide by. Leaving your call out turns 30.00% into 42.86%, and the margin into +14.1271 points. Dividing by the starting pot gives 75.00% and a margin of -18.0157 points, further from the truth.

How many outs you could lose

8 outs is the line for a three-quarter-pot bet on the flop. Your 16 sit 8 outs above it, and the chance at the line is 31.45%.

Think of $118.38 as your safety room: the most you can give back after a hit, 1.58 times your call, with the call still level.

Price of a three-quarter-pot call if you give money back after a hit, 16 outs on the flop
Given back laterPrice with itYour chance minus priceValue of the callCall?
$030.00%+26.98 points+$67.46Call
$1031.25%+25.73 points+$61.76Call
$2533.33%+23.65 points+$53.21Call
$5037.50%+19.48 points+$38.97Call
$10050.00%+6.98 points+$10.48Call

By the river or next card

You can skip the usual debate over one card versus two, because 34.04% and 56.98% both give a call against 30.00%.

16 outs against a three-quarter-pot bet, one view per row
Cards countedChanceMargin over priceValue of the callVerdict
By the river, two cards56.98%+26.9843 points+$67.46Call
Next card only34.04%+4.0426 points+$10.11Call

One out more or less

Here are the neighbors of 16 outs, priced against the same 30.00%. One more out lifts your chance by about 2.78 points.

Outs 14 to 18 on the flop against a three-quarter-pot bet
OutsBy the riverMarginVerdict
14 outs51.16%+21.16 pointsCall
15 outs54.12%+24.12 pointsCall
16 outs, this page56.98%+26.98 pointsCall
17 outs59.76%+29.76 pointsCall
18 outs62.44%+32.44 pointsCall

How bet size moves the answer

Bet size sets the price, so the verdict changes as you scan the table. The three-quarter-pot bet of this page is marked in the first column.

A draw this strong has no ceiling inside the table. 56.98% tops every price from the smallest bet to the largest.

16 outs on the flop against every bet size
Bet sizeEquity neededMarginVerdict
quarter-pot16.67%+40.32 pointsCall
third-pot20.00%+36.98 pointsCall
two-fifths-pot22.22%+34.76 pointsCall
half-pot25.00%+31.98 pointsCall
two-thirds-pot28.57%+28.41 pointsCall
three-quarter-pot, this page30.00%+26.98 pointsCall
pot-size33.33%+23.65 pointsCall
1.25x-pot35.71%+21.27 pointsCall
1.5x-pot37.50%+19.48 pointsCall
2x-pot40.00%+16.98 pointsCall
3x-pot42.86%+14.13 pointsCall
4x-pot44.44%+12.54 pointsCall

How this is computed

The number is exact rather than estimated. 465 of the 1,081 pairs that could come are blanks, which leaves 56.98% for a hit.

The price is call / (pot + bet + call), here $75 / $250 = 30.00%, and the margin is your chance minus it. The page assumes you call the whole bet, win the whole pot whenever you hit, and see no more betting. All 47 unseen cards are equally likely and none is removed for an opponent's hand, so this is the chance to hit your outs, not your equity against one hand.

Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library.

Updated

Questions

Call or fold with 16 outs on the flop against a bet of three quarters of the pot?

Math says call. The three-quarter-pot bet of $75 needs 30.00% equity, 16 outs on the flop give 56.98%, and the margin is +26.98 points. Assuming a whole pot won on a hit and no further bets, the call is worth +$67.46 on average.

How many outs make a call correct against three quarters of the pot on the flop?

Look for 8 outs. That is the smallest count whose chance, 31.45%, reaches the 30.00% price; 7 manages 27.84%. You have 16, so you are 8 ahead of the minimum.

When is the next-card chance the better comparison?

Both figures are right for their own situation: 56.98% with no more betting, 34.04% when the turn brings a bet. Facing 30.00%, each one gives a call.

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