19 outs on the flop against a third-pot bet: call or fold

Call. With 19 outs on the flop, your 65.03% chance beats the 20.00% price of a third-pot bet.

Verdict

Call

19 outs, flop, third-pot bet

  • Chance to hit by the rivertwo cards to come65.03%
  • Equity the call needs$33.33 into a pot of $166.6720.00%
  • Margin over the priceyour chance minus the price+45.03 points

Chance against price

Your draw is priced at 20.00% and it arrives 65.03% of the time. A lead of 45.03 points is wide enough that the call stands even if the numbers shift a little.

No single everyday draw has exactly 19 outs, so a count like this usually combines draws. One card from the 47 unseen helps 40.43% of the time.

Worked through on a $100 pot

  • Pot when the bet arrives$100
  • Size of the bet$33.33
  • Your call$33.33
  • Pot after your call$166.67
  • You can win on a hit$133.33
  • You lose on a miss$33.33
  • Probability of a hit65.03%
  • Expected value of a call+$75.05
  • Price of the call20.00%
  • Your chance minus the price, unrounded+45.0324 points
  • Break-even count of outs4.91 outs
  • Outs above the price+14.09 outs

Expected value says the same in dollars. Win the whole pot on a hit, lose your call on a miss, add no more betting, and the call gains $75.05 on average: $86.71 in, $11.66 out, +2.252 per dollar called.

Odds say the same thing. Hitting is 0.54 : 1 against, and the pot lays 4 : 1.

Skipping your own call in the pot gives a price of 25.00% where 20.00% is correct, and a margin of +40.0324 points instead of +45.03 points. The starting pot gives 33.33% and a margin of +31.6990 points, which is wrong by even more.

Reverse implied odds and your margin

The call survives losing up to 14 outs. At 5 outs the chance is 20.35%, just enough for 20.00%.

Break-even on later streets sits at $115.41 given back, or 3.46 times your call.

Price of a third-pot call if you give money back after a hit, 19 outs on the flop
Given back laterPrice with itYour chance minus priceValue of the callCall?
$020.00%+45.03 points+$75.05Call
$1021.28%+43.76 points+$68.55Call
$2523.53%+41.50 points+$58.80Call
$5028.57%+36.46 points+$42.54Call
$10050.00%+15.03 points+$10.02Call

By the river or next card

You can skip the usual debate over one card versus two, because 40.43% and 65.03% both give a call against 20.00%.

19 outs against a third-pot bet, one view per row
Cards countedChanceMargin over priceValue of the callVerdict
By the river, two cards65.03%+45.0324 points+$75.05Call
Next card only40.43%+20.4255 points+$34.04Call

Counts close to yours

How fast does the margin move? About 2.50 points per out on the flop. The rows below keep the third-pot bet fixed and change only the outs.

Outs 16 to 20 on the flop against a third-pot bet
OutsBy the riverMarginVerdict
16 outs56.98%+36.98 pointsCall
17 outs59.76%+39.76 pointsCall
18 outs62.44%+42.44 pointsCall
19 outs, this page65.03%+45.03 pointsCall
20 outs67.53%+47.53 pointsCall

The draw across every bet size

One draw, 12 bets. Each row gives the equity the call needs, the margin over it, and the verdict for 19 outs on the flop.

With 65.03% to hit, no bet on the list is too big. 19 outs call all 12 sizes on the flop.

19 outs on the flop against every bet size
Bet sizeEquity neededMarginVerdict
quarter-pot16.67%+48.37 pointsCall
third-pot, this page20.00%+45.03 pointsCall
two-fifths-pot22.22%+42.81 pointsCall
half-pot25.00%+40.03 pointsCall
two-thirds-pot28.57%+36.46 pointsCall
three-quarter-pot30.00%+35.03 pointsCall
pot-size33.33%+31.70 pointsCall
1.25x-pot35.71%+29.32 pointsCall
1.5x-pot37.50%+27.53 pointsCall
2x-pot40.00%+25.03 pointsCall
3x-pot42.86%+22.18 pointsCall
4x-pot44.44%+20.59 pointsCall

How this is computed

Counting is exact: the pairs of unseen cards with no out number 378 out of 1,081, so hitting by the river has chance 65.03%.

Four assumptions sit behind the verdict: you call the full bet, a hit wins the entire pot, no money goes in after the call, and every one of the 47 unseen cards is equally likely. The price is $33.33 / $166.67 = 20.00%. No card is taken out for what an opponent might hold.

Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library.

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Questions

How should you respond to a third-pot bet on the flop when you hold 19 outs?

By the numbers it is a call. 19 outs on the flop hit 65.03% by the river, a third-pot bet needs 20.00%, and the margin is +45.03 points. That assumes you call the full $33.33 and no more betting follows, and it values the call at +$75.05 per $100 pot.

How many outs make a call correct against a third of the pot on the flop?

The threshold is 5 outs. It gives 20.35%, clearing 20.00%, whereas 4 gives only 16.47%. Holding 19 puts you 14 above it, with a chance of 65.03%.

Which chance should you compare with the price, the next card or the river?

Count two cards, 65.03%, when the bet is the last money going in, and one card, 40.43%, when the next street brings another bet. At a price of 20.00%, either number leads to a call.

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