20 outs on the flop against a three-quarter-pot bet: call or fold

Call. With 20 outs on the flop, your 67.53% chance beats the 30.00% price of a three-quarter-pot bet.

Verdict

Call

20 outs, flop, three-quarter-pot bet

  • Chance to hit by the rivertwo cards to come67.53%
  • Equity the call needs$75 into a pot of $25030.00%
  • Margin over the priceyour chance minus the price+37.53 points

Reading the verdict

The price is 30.00% and your chance is 67.53%. You sit 37.53 points above the line, which is a wide gap, so you call.

No single everyday draw has exactly 20 outs, so a count like this usually combines draws. One card from the 47 unseen helps 42.55% of the time.

A $100 pot, step by step

  • Pot when the bet arrives$100
  • Your opponent bets$75
  • You call$75
  • Total pot after calling$250
  • Net gain when you hit$175
  • What a miss costs$75
  • Chance to hit by the river67.53%
  • Calling is worth, on average+$93.83
  • Equity needed to break even30.00%
  • Unrounded margin+37.5301 points
  • Fractional outs at the price7.59 outs
  • Margin measured in outs+12.41 outs

Price it in dollars, with no later bets: win the whole pot on a hit, lose the call on a miss. That averages $118.18 in and $24.35 out, so calling gains $93.83 on average at +1.251 per dollar called.

Written as odds, the pot lays 2.33 : 1 while the draw is 0.48 : 1 against.

The correct pot to divide by includes your call. Without it the price reads 42.86% rather than 30.00%, and the margin reads +24.6729 points. With the starting pot alone it reads 75.00% and -7.4699 points.

Your cushion over the price

If some outs turned out to be shared with a better hand, you could give up 12 outs and still call. The floor is 8, at 31.45%.

After a hit you could give back up to $138.94 on later streets, 1.85 times your call, before the call stops paying.

Price of a three-quarter-pot call if you give money back after a hit, 20 outs on the flop
Given back laterPrice with itYour chance minus priceValue of the callCall?
$030.00%+37.53 points+$93.83Call
$1031.25%+36.28 points+$87.07Call
$2533.33%+34.20 points+$76.94Call
$5037.50%+30.03 points+$60.06Call
$10050.00%+17.53 points+$26.30Call

Which chance to use

You can skip the usual debate over one card versus two, because 42.55% and 67.53% both give a call against 30.00%.

20 outs against a three-quarter-pot bet, one view per row
Cards countedChanceMargin over priceValue of the callVerdict
By the river, two cards67.53%+37.5301 points+$93.83Call
Next card only42.55%+12.5532 points+$31.38Call

How the answer moves with outs

Here are the closest counts to 20 outs, priced against the same 30.00%. One fewer out moves your chance by about 2.50 points.

Outs 16 to 20 on the flop against a three-quarter-pot bet
OutsBy the riverMarginVerdict
16 outs56.98%+26.98 pointsCall
17 outs59.76%+29.76 pointsCall
18 outs62.44%+32.44 pointsCall
19 outs65.03%+35.03 pointsCall
20 outs, this page67.53%+37.53 pointsCall

How bet size moves the answer

Your 67.53% chance is fixed, so the only thing that moves is the price. The 12 rows below price the call at every bet size on the flop.

The call holds at every one of the 12 sizes. 67.53% is higher than the price of even the largest bet.

20 outs on the flop against every bet size
Bet sizeEquity neededMarginVerdict
quarter-pot16.67%+50.86 pointsCall
third-pot20.00%+47.53 pointsCall
two-fifths-pot22.22%+45.31 pointsCall
half-pot25.00%+42.53 pointsCall
two-thirds-pot28.57%+38.96 pointsCall
three-quarter-pot, this page30.00%+37.53 pointsCall
pot-size33.33%+34.20 pointsCall
1.25x-pot35.71%+31.82 pointsCall
1.5x-pot37.50%+30.03 pointsCall
2x-pot40.00%+27.53 pointsCall
3x-pot42.86%+24.67 pointsCall
4x-pot44.44%+23.09 pointsCall

How this is computed

Counting is exact: the pairs of unseen cards with no out number 351 out of 1,081, so hitting by the river has chance 67.53%.

The price is call / (pot + bet + call), here $75 / $250 = 30.00%, and the margin is your chance minus it. The page assumes you call the whole bet, win the whole pot whenever you hit, and see no more betting. All 47 unseen cards are equally likely and none is removed for an opponent's hand, so this is the chance to hit your outs, not your equity against one hand.

Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library.

Updated

Questions

Are 20 outs on the flop worth a call against a bet of three quarters of the pot?

Verdict: call. A three-quarter-pot bet asks for 30.00% and you have 67.53%, a margin of +37.53 points. For a $75 call into a $100 pot, with no later bets and the whole pot won on a hit, the average is +$93.83.

How many outs make a call correct against three quarters of the pot on the flop?

The threshold is 8 outs. It gives 31.45%, clearing 30.00%, whereas 7 gives only 27.84%. Holding 20 puts you 12 above it, with a chance of 67.53%.

How many cards should you count when a three-quarter-pot bet arrives on the flop?

Match the number to the betting: 67.53% if all-in or checked down, 42.55% if you face another bet on the turn. The price is 30.00%, and both numbers agree on call.

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