5 outs on the flop against a half-pot bet: call or fold

Here is why a call fails on the flop: a half-pot bet needs 25.00% equity, and 5 outs supply only 20.35%.

Verdict

Fold

5 outs, flop, half-pot bet

  • Chance to hit by the rivertwo cards to come20.35%
  • Equity the call needs$50 into a pot of $20025.00%
  • Margin over the priceyour chance minus the price-4.65 points

Your chance and the price

Against a half-pot bet the call needs 25.00%. With 5 outs you have 20.35%, which leaves you 4.65 points under it, so the fold wins out.

A count of 5 outs is usually the sum of more than one draw. Out of 47 unseen cards, one card helps 10.64% of the time.

Counting the chips on a $100 pot

  • Pot when the bet arrives$100
  • The bet$50
  • Cost to call$50
  • Final pot if you call$200
  • Net gain when you hit$150
  • You lose on a miss$50
  • How often you hit20.35%
  • Calling is worth, on average-$9.30
  • Equity needed to break even25.00%
  • Margin, to four decimals-4.6485 points
  • Fractional outs at the price6.23 outs
  • Outs above the price-1.23 outs

Assume the whole pot goes to you when you hit, the call is lost when you miss, and nothing more is bet. Calling then loses $9.30 on average: $30.53 from hits, minus $39.82 from misses, -0.186 per dollar called.

Odds say the same thing. Hitting is 3.91 : 1 against, and the pot lays 3 : 1.

Skipping your own call in the pot gives a price of 33.33% where 25.00% is correct, and a margin of -12.9818 points instead of -4.65 points. The starting pot gives 50.00% and a margin of -29.6485 points, which is wrong by even more.

Implied odds that would change the answer

Your chance is 20.35%, so a hit has to pay $245.68 in all, or $45.68 more than the pot you can see. That extra is 0.91 times what you call.

If the draw had 2 more outs, for 7 in all, the chance would be 27.84% and the call would clear 25.00%.

Price of a half-pot call with future winnings added, 5 outs on the flop
Future winningsPrice with themYour chance minus priceValue of the callCall?
$025.00%-4.65 points-$9.30Fold
$5020.00%+0.35 points+$0.88Call
$10016.67%+3.68 points+$11.05Call
$25011.11%+9.24 points+$41.58Call
$5007.14%+13.21 points+$92.46Call

Next card or river

Both views point the same way. By the river you hit 20.35%, on the next card 10.64%, and the price is 25.00%, so the fold holds whichever number applies.

5 outs against a half-pot bet, one view per row
Cards countedChanceMargin over priceValue of the callVerdict
By the river, two cards20.35%-4.6485 points-$9.30Fold
Next card only10.64%-14.3617 points-$28.72Fold

Nearby draws

The table shows 5 outs and the draws around it on the flop, all against the same half-pot bet. Each extra out adds about 3.79 points to the chance here.

Outs 3 to 7 on the flop against a half-pot bet
OutsBy the riverMarginVerdict
3 outs12.49%-12.51 pointsFold
4 outs16.47%-8.53 pointsFold
5 outs, this page20.35%-4.65 pointsFold
6 outs24.14%-0.86 pointsFold
7 outs27.84%+2.84 pointsCall

Where the bet size flips the call

Bet size sets the price, so the verdict changes as you scan the table. The half-pot bet of this page is marked in the first column.

The ceiling for a call is a bet of 0.34 times the pot ($34.32 on a $100 pot). 2 out of 12 sizes sit under it on the flop.

5 outs on the flop against every bet size
Bet sizeEquity neededMarginVerdict
quarter-pot16.67%+3.68 pointsCall
third-pot20.00%+0.35 pointsCall
two-fifths-pot22.22%-1.87 pointsFold
half-pot, this page25.00%-4.65 pointsFold
two-thirds-pot28.57%-8.22 pointsFold
three-quarter-pot30.00%-9.65 pointsFold
pot-size33.33%-12.98 pointsFold
1.25x-pot35.71%-15.36 pointsFold
1.5x-pot37.50%-17.15 pointsFold
2x-pot40.00%-19.65 pointsFold
3x-pot42.86%-22.51 pointsFold
4x-pot44.44%-24.09 pointsFold

How this is computed

No sampling is involved. On the flop there are 1,081 pairs of unseen cards, and 861 of them contain no out, which leaves 20.35% for at least one out.

The numbers are a baseline rather than a prediction for one hand. The price is 25.00%, from $50 into $200, and the chance assumes a whole pot won on a hit, no more betting, 47 equally likely unseen cards, and no cards removed for the other player.

Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library.

Updated

Questions

Is a call correct with 5 outs against a half-pot bet on the flop?

Your chance, 20.35%, set against the 25.00% price gives -4.65 points and a fold. With a $100 pot, a $50 call and no more betting, the average value of the call is -$9.30.

How many outs make a call correct against half the pot on the flop?

7 outs is the line. At 7 the chance is 27.84%, enough for 25.00%; one fewer gives 24.14%, which is not. Your 5 outs sit 2 below it on the flop, at 20.35%.

Should you use the chance on the next card or by the river?

Pick the number that matches the street plan: 20.35% for seeing both cards for one bet, 10.64% for paying card by card. Both face 25.00%, and the verdict is fold either way.

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