4 outs on the turn: chance to hit

Counting 4 outs on the turn puts your chance on the river at 8.70%. This page turns that figure into odds, tests the rule of 2 against it and lines it up with 12 bet sizes.

Chance to hit on the river

8.70%

4 outs, one card to come

  • Odds against10.5 : 1
  • Rule of 2 estimate-0.70 points from the exact chance8%
  • Unseen cards46

The count behind 4 outs on the turn

Under one chance in five is thin. 8.70% on the river means the miss is the usual outcome, and the price has to reflect that.

  • Unseen cards46
  • Your outs4
  • Cards that miss42
  • Chance on the river8.70%
  • Chance on the next card (the river)8.70%
  • Odds against hitting10.5 : 1
  • Estimate from the rule of 28%
  • Error of the rule of 2-0.70 points

Chance on the river = k / u, with u = 46 unseen cardsFor 4 outs: 4 / 46 = 8.70%

No pairs to count here, just 4 helpful cards in a deck of 46 unseen ones. That is 8.70%, with 42 unhelpful cards making up the rest.

Being 0.70 points low, 8% still points the right way, but the exact 8.70% is the number to put against a bet.

2 x 4 = 8% is all the shortcut asks of you with 4 outs on the turn. The adjusted rule is kept for flop counts above 8.

Which holding has 4 outs?

Common holding with this count: a gutshot straight draw. This page tells you how often it gets there.

A shared out has a price: 2.17 points for the first, and 6.52 points in all with 3 shared. Subtract any shared outs before you compare with a bet.

4 outs on the turn when some outs are shared with a better hand
Shared outsEffective outsChance on the riverChance given up
048.70%0.00 points
136.52%2.17 points
224.35%4.35 points
312.17%6.52 points

The bets 4 outs can call on the turn

Each row compares your 8.70% chance with the equity a call needs. You can call none of the 12 bet sizes with 4 outs on the turn.

The line between call and fold is a bet of 10.53% of the pot, or $10.53 on a $100 pot. Stay at or under it and the draw pays for itself.

4 outs on the turn against every bet size, with your chance on the river at 8.70%
Bet sizeEquity a call needsMargin over itVerdict
1/4 pot16.67%-7.97 pointsFold
1/3 pot20.00%-11.30 pointsFold
2/5 pot22.22%-13.53 pointsFold
1/2 pot25.00%-16.30 pointsFold
2/3 pot28.57%-19.88 pointsFold
3/4 pot30.00%-21.30 pointsFold
full pot33.33%-24.64 pointsFold
1.25x pot35.71%-27.02 pointsFold
1.5x pot37.50%-28.80 pointsFold
2x pot40.00%-31.30 pointsFold
3x pot42.86%-34.16 pointsFold
4x pot44.44%-35.75 pointsFold

Nearby counts on both streets

Compare 4 outs with the counts on either side. Each step is worth near 2.17 points on the turn, and the other street is shown next to it.

Counts near 4: the chance by the river on the turn and on the flop
OutsTurn, by the riverFlop, by the river
24.35%8.42%
36.52%12.49%
4 (this page)8.70%16.47%
510.87%20.35%
613.04%24.14%

The river is the last card

Nothing is hidden behind a second card here. Your 8.70% is the full draw, and a half-pot bet asks for 25.00%, which makes the verdict Fold.

How this is computed

The chance to hit on the river from the turn is k / 46, where 46 is the number of unseen cards and k is your effective outs. For 4 outs that is 4 / 46 = 8.70%. The next card is the river, so both chances are the same.

The rule of 2 figure is 2 x k, here 8%, and its error is that figure minus the exact chance in percentage points, here -0.70 points.

Two assumptions sit behind the page. First, all 46 unseen cards are equally likely, with no cards taken out for an opponent. Second, each bet is called in full on a $100 pot, so you pay one bet to play for a pot that holds the pot and both bets.

Computed from the closed form by the GeorgeLiPoker math library.

Updated

Questions

How often do 4 outs hit on the turn?

With 4 outs on the turn you hit on the river 8.70% of the time, about 9 of every 100 hands, because 4 of the 46 unseen cards are outs. The odds against are 10.5 : 1.

What is the error of the rule of 2 at 4 outs?

The rule of 2 gives 8% for 4 outs against an exact 8.70%, an error of -0.70 points. The shortcut sits below the true chance, so the exact figure is better for you.

Which bets can 4 outs call on the turn?

At 8.70% on the river, you can call none of the 12 bet sizes. A half-pot bet needs 25.00%, a margin of -16.30 points, so against half the pot the verdict is Fold. The largest bet you can call is 10.53% of the pot, or $10.53 on a $100 pot.

Should I count every out when a rival could be drawing too, with 4 outs?

Take them off the count first. With one shared out the chance on the river falls from 8.70% to 6.52%, and with 3 shared it falls to 2.17%, a loss of 6.52 points. The effective count is then 1 out.

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